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Usmanov & Dein Needed After Shambolic Summer At Arsenal

Before a few days ago (just after the Man Utd disaster) there wasn’t a lot I could say apart from “utter disappointment”. Despite the signings, our squad isn’t as strong as it could have been and the window is shut. Before the last two days of the window, all we had done is signed a kid (a very talented Mr Chamberlain) from nPower League One side Southampton for £7million (eventually rising to £15million), Gervinho, who took 9 weeks to sign (but a bargain at £10.7million), Jenkinson (another League One hotshot for £1million), and then flogged the rest of our chalk.

Eboué went for £4million to Galatasaray, nobody bats an eyelid, suddenly our whole squad leaves and you think “was £4million worth it?”, never mind, what’s done is done. Then there’s the hot-out-of-hell Arsenal villain Nasri who picked a spot on the bench at Man City for £200K a week, transfer fee of £24million. Losing Nasri seemed fine, but that was with the expectation we would replace him with someone of similar, if not better, quality, cue Eden Hazard.

As for Fabregas, it only seems like common sense that we signed an adequate replacement BEFORE we sold him, yet that never happened. It was inevitable that Fabregas would leave this summer so why spend so long dallying over an outbound transfer and spend no time at all looking on bringing players in?

But then, inbound…  Two of our left-backs have gone (Clichy and Traoré), leaving Kieran Gibbs on his own with who as back-up? George Brislen-Hall (who we re-signed after releasing)? I thought: “****” we’re flapping our arms in the deep end now, but then out of nowhere appeared André Santos, not bad for some. We “supposedly” planned a £12million bid for Baines, but like 95% of all Arsenal transfers, nothing materialised so we went for the cheaper option.

Park Chu-Young as a replacement for Bendtner? I don’t see why not, although I’d rather lose Chamakh than Bendtner. The point is at least we signed someone, even if he does have to leave for military service when he’s 28 (look it up if you don’t believe me). Per Mertesacker, 6’6” and has a good disciplinary record, why not? The deal was done fast and he’s only 26, good move for the future. Benayoun?  Fair enough it’s just a loan, but it is a “panic buy” and this is what we need to avoid if we are going to continue to grow as a club, decent squad player, though.

And to top it all off, we get MIKEL ARTETA who I am OVER THE MOON about signing. Arteta is, in my opinion,exactly what we need; Arteta is creative, experienced, and hungry to play (in Europe, we know he wasn’t starved of football at Everton). The icing on the cake: he took a £10k per week wage cut to play for us, shows how much he wanted the move, shows how much he wants to be an Arsenal player.

Need for change

However, despite the signings, we’re still left with this weakened squad and a mountain of cash stockpiled on a varnished wooden table in the boardroom. I guess we’ll have to wait until January to see our money get fully spent.

As for the lack of drive behind the scenes, I’m not sure who to blame here, is it Wenger? Yes. Is it the board? Most certainly yes to that as well. We’re left with one big problem which Wenger and the board are big parts of.

Wenger is (arguably) too stubborn to change his ways when, let’s face it, his ways aren’t working anymore. The board lack any sense of direction whatsoever and only seem to care about lining their pockets with our money. It’s all a bit too much, and with Danny Fiszman no longer with us, it only seems right that we bring back David Dein to the board as well as giving a place to Usmanov (Red & White Holdings).

There would be nothing wrong with having those two on the board, why? David Dein was always an influential figure in driving the club forwards (when he was here) but with him gone, everything seems to have taken a turn for the worst. Dein was known for backing Wenger’s transfer wishes, but with Silent Stan & Co not caring at all, there appears to be a chasm of separation between Wenger and the board and it’s hurting us, Dein and Usmanov [left] could bridge that gap. Why Usmanov you ask? Why on earth not?! He’s been quoted saying he “loves” Arsenal, as well as making a statement of intent by not selling his 29% stake in the club (Red & White Holdings) to Silent Stan during his brisk takeover of the club. The fans need a voice on the board, and that voice is Usmanov. Make it happen.

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  1. clif

    September 2, 2011 at 8:27 pm


  2. ragnethan

    September 2, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    what a pile of rubbish.Football Talk is a poor tv pundits site.The situation is far more complex than you make it out to be.More research is needed instead of narrow minded opinions.

  3. beezy

    September 2, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Usmanov?!?! That guys a lunatic, but we could use Dein back on the scene.

    • robert fisher

      September 2, 2011 at 11:59 pm

      usmanov is a lunatic who loves to spend he has just become britans richest man if he were to buy silent stans shares we would become the richest football club in the whole of britan he could affored to pay the players big wages unlike an stupid american

  4. jonathan chawora

    September 2, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Well said.We have enough potential to compete with the likes of Man City and Man utd. If we had used all the money from the sales of Cesc and Nasri we would definitely be title contenders. Usmanov is a must. We are not very far away from the top sides. At the moment we are shooting ourselves in the foot.

  5. venky

    September 2, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Why don’t moaners like you f**k off to support teams like Chelski and Manure. People like You are a disgrace to this great club.

    We had made great signings which leaves no doubt whatsoever in my mind that we are going to finish at the top not just in the top 4. Instead of whining, moaning and creating a negative vibe just try to enjoy the football that we are going to produce this season and I am that sure you won’t regret that.

    • Martin

      September 2, 2011 at 9:14 pm

      Are you some sort of c@nt ? We sold two of the best players in the world and bought an Everton player and had to lower ourselves by asking Chelski if we could borrow one of their players who’s not good enough into their team. If you think that’s good enough why don’t YOU F@ck off and support West Ham

      • mazija

        September 2, 2011 at 9:31 pm

        agree with you

    • diamond dave

      September 2, 2011 at 9:26 pm

      venky why dont you stop sucking on your mothers tits you have no f**king clue about football, never been to a match so go support your daddies cock arse wipe

    • Mr Gooner

      September 2, 2011 at 11:21 pm

      Hey stop argueing we are all gooners lets not start an arguement over some rubbish. I think arteta is a brilliant player and maybe the benayoun guy can recapture his form. Support the team and i think that arsenal relied on fabragas to much and in truth he was injured most of the time like for every manpoop game we played and nasri is just a twat greedy for money.

    • pissofffan

      September 3, 2011 at 3:42 am

      Cant you see something, 6 years without a Trophy! For a Big Club! Are we asking for too much every year to spend like Chelsea or Man City did, Nope. Its so easy to understand with the Freaking Board making the deals, who to sell and what we bought, I do find Gervinho, Mikel are good buys, but can we win any trophies? I don’t think so. We need World Class at least 1 or 2, simple. Not young and talented, waiting for years to come, and cheap experience buys. How long more do we have to wait, another 2 to 5 years or more?

  6. Tuza

    September 2, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    What rubbish of an article from a fool with no football brain or knowledge of Arsenal FC. Leave Wenger ans Arsenal alone. Go support Man U or whoever. Go Go Go. Stupid critical mind of anything Wenger does…

  7. Martin

    September 2, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Who on the current board can stand up to Kroenke, nobody, Usmanov should go go a full takeover. Another dodgy yank takes over an English club and milks it for all the cash they can get

  8. Tuza

    September 2, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    What rubbish of an article from a fool with no football brain or knowledge of Arsenal FC. Leave Wenger and Arsenal alone. Go support Man U or whoever. Go Go Go. Stupid critical mind of anything Wenger does…You asked for experience, Wenger did that almost in every department. What do you want???????????

    • diamond dave

      September 2, 2011 at 9:24 pm

      y dont you f**k up tuza you know nothing about football never been to a match and you prob still suck your mothers tits you are a cock

      • Mr Gooner

        September 2, 2011 at 11:30 pm

        “Diamond Dave calm the f*ck down cos u know know nothing and seem to be getting very learry go sit back down next to your daddy and continue with giving him a handjob.

        • Wenger

          September 2, 2011 at 11:48 pm

          Ah Mrs Gooner, exactly the type of fan that doesn’t mind a good rodgering from the club.

  9. Rashid Cole

    September 2, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    U are right, we need back David Dein , he was caring too much about the club. his heart belongs to Arsenal ,I like him more than anyone in the Board.
    as you said we have to go back on the market to but at least two Big name players. if its Hazard and M’Villa both are 20 and 21 respectively ,and have also big experience , if we wont let them down like NASS and FAB they will stay with us for longtime like deniss B and thiery henry why i said leting them down? YES if we will build the big squad that can compete no one will ask to leave.if we dont do that it will be negative so no one will stay

  10. diamond dave

    September 2, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    i think what we must all rememebr is wenger yes is to blame but also we dont know what goes on behind the scenes, there have been certain comments when wenger went for real quality the board would not pay the wages, they still live in the 1980’s believing players are on the minimum wage, and E.T is our manager,they have weakened our squad, we have no depth or strength, and what all supporters need to do is get rid of kroenke, gazidis and the old farts of a board, they are only intereted in lining their pockets, that is why all our best players have gone and they panicked bought second class players, because they are s**ting themselves, kroenke has to go with the rest of his cronies and bring in usamonov and david dein, that is a must because these two i believe will bring success back to arsenal, as we have seen the rest are just interested in having someone to blame when it goes wrong and it will be wenger, when you look into it was the board who have taken this club we all love to the lowest levels i can not ever remmeber ever seeing, time to support that kroenke and gazidis get out. frank mcklintock said today he would be up in arms to be paying top notch money, where they have sold our best players and bought in,in a panic second raters we need to fight this together gooners

    • ragnethan

      September 2, 2011 at 10:01 pm

      Almost unbelievable stuff,then again sounds like just another media brain washed idiot who just is too thick to think for his self. Sorry “Diamond Dave” you’re a clown

    • Mr Gooner

      September 2, 2011 at 11:26 pm

      Go f*ck off u c@nt diamond dave

      • Pete

        September 2, 2011 at 11:54 pm

        Excellent post Dave. As for ragnuffin, and this other complete dolt, very convincing arguments I must say.

        Wenger’s time is up, shouldn’t be more than a year. His project has flopped completely and he knows it. Eufa doesn’t want less money in the game, it wants more. Anyone who is happy about the results of this transfer window when we could and should have had Alvarez, Mata, Cahill, just doesn’t have a clue. Our top four place is at risk like never before and winning anything is out of the question.

    • VinGUN

      September 3, 2011 at 3:04 am

      Why everybody always putting blamed on Wenger.
      He just a Manager like anybody else Manager in any organization or company and he’s only employee. He not made the direction or vision of the company, it’s the board. Please!…..guys read the business management book. Manager doing his job follows the company guidelines and rules of law done by the board. The board paying the Manager salary so that he can manage the company according to what they want. If the Manager overrules doing again the company guideline and direction, the board will sack him out and replace him with someone new that can follow the same guideline and direction. For Mr Wenger, he have to follows company philosophy, guideline and direction or he will be sack if not. For me Mr. Wenger cannot be blame. Even if he got sack and go to Barcelona, MU or Chelsea. He also can make this club like champion as usual because he follow this club or employer philosophy, guideline and direction. So as Fans don’t blame wenger but blame the boards.

  11. Subomi

    September 2, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    He is simply trying to tell we fans that the board still needs to invest in the team properly just lyk united did,even stoke,stan keronke is just too silent,he should give wenger a push to make him deliver a silverware this time,not just finishing in the top4,the late buys were excellent,park with a hattrick today,ramsey on scoresheet,rvp marvellous also,i think the attack is also good,all we need now is a reliable midfield and maybe some bench players who can actually change games not arshavin,almunia, and the likes,i think overall,the team is ready to compete,hope we still buy real players when its january.up gunners

  12. dave

    September 2, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Also most of silent stan’s sports clubs go onto be a profit making, not spending but only saving, trophy-less club. The Don King of sports franchise with cash before honors approach of which fans don’t count – unless you stop attending.

  13. dave

    September 2, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Arsenal fans must remember it was Stan who sold Narsi not Wenger, that is why he came to the UK & Cesc’s sale was out of Wenger’s hands otherwise they both would stayed.

    • ragnethan

      September 2, 2011 at 9:54 pm

      What are you on about? Both Cesc and Nasri wanted to go.You really are a moron.

      • dave

        September 2, 2011 at 10:20 pm

        Moron – & u think your not? Yes they wanted to go but Cesc would have stayed one more year if his wage increase from last would have remained – Wenger was for it but the board thought the weekly wages were too high to maintain.
        As for Nasri Wenger was willing to risk him leave for free next summer & was talk from Nasri he would see out this year. If Arsenal really do have a lot of money for Wenger then the risk of loosing £22m would not be an issue & Stan & the board would not have forced Nasri’s sale. Nasri staying one more year would have been better for Whilshire phyically but now there is a lot of pressure on Jack and he has started to get injured.

        • ragnethan

          September 3, 2011 at 8:12 am

          So it’s a good deal to effectively write off £22 million pounds to get one season out of a player.Would you support paying £22 million pounds to buy any player and give him a one year contract? As for Nasri the player who went to win trophies, he could have won us the carling cup for us on his own had his finishing been up to scratch, he was quite useless from January on this year.

      • ziggy

        September 2, 2011 at 11:21 pm

        you obviously didn’t follow any of the goigd on at Arsenal and call yourself a fan?Wenger was prepared to let Nasri’s contract run but silent Standard after hearing that was on the next plane down and scuppered that idea. Wenger in the summer suggested to the board to relax the wage structure to keep our best players and to attract top players that was also vetoed.Mata and Sneidjer were done deals with their clubs but the board would not break their wage structure, this was even before Fab and Nas left.So stop giving everyone abuse and find the facts. Even Wenger after the Manure game said with our wage structure we couldn’t compete.The money made from those sales claimed to be available includes wages and contract renewals.Looking at the tactics at manure, it was a deliberate spanking to send a message to the board and when they realised their investment was in danger of going down the pan they decided to buy. Wenger is not stupid and he can’t say what goes on but he has hinted so many times but we as fans don’t read between the lines.

  14. Tim Taylor

    September 2, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    I tottally agree. We need David Dein back, no question about it, Wenger had an ally and a sounding board when dein was there, and its no coincidence that we were more competative in the league and had a better transfer policy, Dein would never have let the cesc and nasri situations get as bad as they did, the man is AFC thru and thru unlike that idiot gazidis

  15. Nips

    September 2, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    For all you fools insulting usmanov. The mans 4 times wealthier than Stan and almost twice wealthier than roman. He would’ve given us man city style bottomless pockets with a net worth of 18 billion

    • defranc

      September 2, 2011 at 11:31 pm

      pls beg usmanov to overlook some protocol , sign and pay top players with his cash. we are really in a mess.
      i recall david dein saying some years back dat ARSENAL IS GRADUATING TO THE STONE AGE.
      we need unity in AFC from d board to the players. truely disunity is also weighing us down.

  16. ranj

    September 2, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Ppl talk of signing players as the answer to winning titles and Champions League trophies. If that be true, then Chelsea should have won the Premiership every season since Abramhavic became their benefactor. Man City should’ve won since the Sheikh took over too. They haven’t. Still sure that if Wenger spent, spent, spent then Arsenal would? Wenger overcame a debt that had we’d been any other club, we’d have gone into adminstration. He honestly believed that both Fabregas & Nasri would stay. Why does that make him naieve. The Fabregas saga goes on every season & Barca did not come up with an acceptable offer. Only coz Fabregas pushed it, Wenger could not decline. But still Wenger wanted the highest price he could get otherwise the price ARSENAL get could be the same as we got for Henry. Sounds like a manager who definately should be sack, right?????? Nasri’s French, so Wenger thought he might have a good chance of keeping him. Nasri continued to reject our offers, but Wenger thought that at least he would stay another season. Not to be. I hope both of them watched the game against Utd in shame. No other manager has done for Arsenal what Arsene Wenger has. If everyone’s so damned concerned about trophies & since the Premiership’s become a league of rich benefactor clubs, perhaps u’d all be better off supporting Man U, City or Chelsea. But I for one will not stop supporting Arsenal or Arsene Wenger.

    • Mr Gooner

      September 2, 2011 at 11:35 pm

      True so true

  17. ziggy

    September 2, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    oh and Den was right,Wenger was on the verge of quitting when the board wouldn’t budge and also after the Manure game.The board came out and backed him cos he would have told all at his resignation press conference.He was backed and promised before they even left Manchester, the following day park, Per and Andre were on their way.Hazard and Mvilla got cold feet about the spanking so without ib January if our results improve.

    • Pete

      September 3, 2011 at 12:00 am

      Wrong, wenger was pleading for more time after the manu match to see if he ‘was completely wrong’, claiming ‘we are only three games into the season, what is to turn around?’ Well someone on the board obviously thought that was not a good idea.

  18. defranc

    September 2, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    pls guys tell me the debt stands of the club. what percentage of the stadium project loan is yet to be unpaid?

    • robert fisher

      September 3, 2011 at 12:04 am

      arsenal are in £200 million pounds worth of debt it would take at least 10 years to pay it all back BUT if usmonov bought us he could pay it within a year we pay around 16.5 million pound a ywear we could pay more but the banks would fine us 1 million 4 every million so its not worth it

  19. s j little

    September 3, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Why is all this weak foul language allowed on the web?
    Cannot site be graded with say

    A For people wanting decent stuff
    X For people wanting garbage from guys
    who are unable to communicate without weak pcfs slang!

  20. arsenalistic

    September 3, 2011 at 12:04 am

    When Abramovich pulled into Chelsea in 02 the world changed and not for the better. It’s up to the regulatory bodies to impose cash limits on wages (as happened in the NFL in the US) and spending limits on clubs related to genuine turnover – that is the only way a genuinely and healthily competitive league can be maintained. Look what’s happening in Spain in La Liga where two teams only predominate. Ultimately, if you know who’s going to win, it’s boring, people won’t watch and will find something better to do. DON’T be seduced by Usmanov’s billions. He began life as a Man U supporter, considered investing in Tottenham, before taking Dein’s shares off him. He plays a long game and is under no circumstances to be trusted. Plus he’s heavily involved with Moscow Dynamo (I think) which is probably still his first love.

    • robert fisher

      September 3, 2011 at 12:10 am

      what are u going on about abromovich took over Chelsea in 03 and look what he has done 4 Chelsea and as 4 usmonov cannot be trusted abromovich has links with the Russian mafia and his first love in football is cska Moscow and usmonov has more money then abromovich in fact they are good friends the one club i hate is city the Arabs think they can do whatever they like not good 4 football

  21. s j little

    September 3, 2011 at 12:19 am

    My son and Grandson have gone to watch Exeter and trhey love it. They say No cheats No dives better football from real people
    cheaper beer better food and the crowd far more involved
    Another family have given up Arsenal and prefer to watch Barnet.
    Arsenal may have damaged our love and the way football is now run could be the beginning of the end!

  22. dambone

    September 3, 2011 at 12:27 am

    I wish I could get back the time I wasted reading this article. “it only seems right that we bring back David Dein to the board as well as giving a place to Usmanov (Red & White Holdings).”

    Lol are you five years old? “We” give a place to them? Do you understand how the board is assembles. “We” don’t have a say. Got it?@&%#*&^@!!!!!

  23. AcGooner

    September 3, 2011 at 1:12 am

    We don’t need both (Kroenke and Usmanov). Usmanov is safer than Kroenke though since he’s richer, more diversified and therefore less possibility that he will borrow against Arsenal assets. Gazidis is correct planning better merch and brand company. Arsenal has enough money and wisdom to build a team and not just buy trophies.

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  25. Domhuaille MacMathghamhna

    September 3, 2011 at 2:17 am

    The name of this site should be Misinformation Unlimited! The bloggers here are excreting out Fantasy Football inventions and rumours without any proof whatsoever, based on nothing other than spurious and totally unreliable tabloid crap or their own infertile imaginations.
    Some of you clowns actually think that writing it here (misspelled of course)in bold and accompanying it with vulgarities and expletives gives it more credence. Utter nonsense and premature speculation as none of us are privileged to know what is actually transpiring at the Board level, nor do we know what any of the actors are thinking. Let Wenger do his thing and lets back off on the overly critical whining based solely on your dislike of the man.

  26. arsenalistic

    September 3, 2011 at 2:18 am

    Kroenke has had a pretty dull rich life, married into the Walmarts, and is a safe, straight down the line US businessman with plenty of experience running sports franchises. Usmanov’s business career could not be more different. He comes with more baggage than Bette Davis and Elizabeth Taylor put together…

  27. lols

    September 3, 2011 at 4:46 am

    if dein was on our board, maybe his douchebag son would stop advising all our best players to go to barca and $hitty.

  28. eleanor

    September 3, 2011 at 4:52 am

    I hope Usmanov never gets anywhere near the Arsenal boardroom. And anyone who thinks of him as some kind of saviour is misguided at best. He has absolutely no regard for the good things about the club, only self-interest.

    Besides, what difference does anyone think getting him into the boardroom would make?

    And if he had overall control? Arsenal would be shattered in no time. Diced, hived, wrecked, splintered, and sold to the devil (metaphorically speaking).

    Dein, is a different matter, but don’t forget the role his son Darren is playing in wresting our best players away from the club.

    The problem the author of this article has is that he knows absolutely nothing about the present dynamics at the club. It’s all assumptions and invention. And what we need is a kind of Wikileaks to make the real situation clearer.

    If fans want more or better investment in players – and I guess that’s what this is all about – then don’t forget Arsenal only just missed out on Alvarez and Mata, and tried very hard for M’Vila and Gotze.

    These all fell through for different reasons. The main one was that we hadn’t secured our CL spot early enough. This put off Alvarez and Mata (Mata also preferred to be with Torres). M’Vila was overpriced and unavailable, Gotze was simply unavailable – as you’d expect. (Bit like Cesc and us used to be.)

    It’s not that the current board or the club doesn’t recognize the quality of player needed – it’s just that only getting 4th spot last year put us in too much of a bind that we nearly didn’t manage to get out of. We could easily have lost that Udinese tie.

    Get it into your heads – this season is all about getting 3rd spot at worst so we can do business early next summer.

    If you don’t believe me then look at what happens in the winter transfer window if we look as if we’re not going to make that target.

    The squad that’s been assembled is the start of a 3 year project to enable Wenger to leave the club on a high. The team will be based around players like Wilshere and Gotze – maybe AOC, Ramsey, and Walcott. But it won’t be due to lack of investment. If we’re willing to pay £20M+ for Mata, £22M for M’Vila, and £35M for Gotze then that should be obvious.

    Right now we can’t compete with the likes of ManU, ManC, Real Madrid, or Barcelona on the pitch or off.

    By the time the 2013-14 season starts – without recourse to the likes of Usmanov or David Dein – ESPECIALLY without Usmanov or David Dein – we will.

    • Pete

      September 3, 2011 at 6:44 am

      Umm, still selling the future eh? Aren’t we supposed to be dominating Europe as of last season? Mate, this season is going to end badly, and that means changes are inevitable.

  29. musty

    September 3, 2011 at 6:14 am

    yha! Uzmanov nd dein iz back .we jst hope all our fans will come now and support arsenal fully.cuz as for wenger if he do anything dat is not right any more we go kick his ass of that post he thinks he gat mouth! Lol in arsene we believe!

  30. musty

    September 3, 2011 at 6:19 am

    yha! Uzmanov nd dein iz back .we jst hope all our fans will come now and support arsenal fully. Lol in usmandein we believe!

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