Wenger: Arsenal Have Won 7 Trophies In 7 Years – Is He Right?

By on October 25, 2012

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Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has claimed qualifying for the Champions League is a trophy in itself and is more important than winning any domestic cup competition.

Wenger faced a hostile crowd at the clubs AGM on Thursday afternoon and was forced to answer some tricky questions from the clubs shareholders, including why Arsenal had not lifted any silverware since their 2005 FA Cup triumph.

However, Wenger hit back insisting his priority is not to win the FA Cup or League Cup (Capital One Cup), and claimed qualifying for the Champions League is like winning a trophy in his eyes.

The Frenchman told Sky Sports.

“For me, there are five trophies.

“The first is to win the Premier League, the second is to win the Champions League, third is to qualify for the Champions League, fourth is the FA Cup and the fifth the League Cup.”

The Gunners boss explained that the reason he feels this way is because no top player is interested in the domestic cups, as they are more concerned if they will be playing in the Champions League.

“I say that because if you want to attract the best players, they do not ask ‘did you win the League Cup?’, they ask you ‘do you play in the Champions League?’. Wenger continued.

“If everybody is absolutely devastated when we finish third in the league, I promise you I will not be here if you finish 15th one day.

“We did not produce a good performance last night, but let’s not forget it was a first home defeat in the Champions League for 43 games. Not many teams do that.”

Wenger also showed faith in his current squad, insisting they are capable of having a good season, and backed the players to prove him right. He continued:

“I believe this team can deliver and I am optimistic we will have a good season and the players will show I am right.

“My job is to deliver a team with the resources we have, and I have never complained about that. I want a club to pay players from its own resources, there is no shame in that.

“It is still important that we keep our strength and stay united for the good of Arsenal, sometimes you can forget that.”

This is certainly a contentious point among Gooners. On one side, I agree that Champions League football is vital for the club, both financially and in terms of being able to attract top players, so can be seen as a ‘fifth trophy’ as Arsene suggests, but like all fans, I love the feeling of winning a trophy.

I agree completely that the League Cup (or whatever their calling it these days) is pretty meaningless but the FA Cup should still be regarded as an important competition. I remember the day I was at Wembley in 1998 to watch Marc Overmars and Nicolas Anelka score in a 2-0 win over Newcastle to lift the FA Cup. Do I have such memories when we finished fourth to qualify for the Champions League in 2008? Nope.

The simple fact remains, whether Arsene likes it or not, trophies will always be the benchmark of a clubs success, not Champions League qualification, and the fans won’t rest until we see some fresh silverware in the trophy cabinet.

But, if given the chance would I swap a year (or possibly more) in the Champions League for an FA Cup? Probably not. And that’s just indicative of how important the Champions League has become.

While we crave trophies, we Arsenal fans need to appreciate how vital Champions League football is in the modern game and not take it for granted. Just ask Liverpool fans.

However, with a reported £70m+ sitting in the bank, shouldn’t Arsenal have a squad capable of qualifying for the Champions League AND winning a trophy?! The exact amount available to the boss is unknown, and Wenger gives little away.

He’s known for having one of the best poker faces in the game. You can never tell whether Arsene”s telling the truth or lying. You can just imagine him sitting at home in his office, logging into his pokerstars account and rinsing the so-called ‘online poker pro’s’ for all they’ve got! But surely he should be more open to us fans about the clubs finances?

If there is money available and it’s not being spent we should know why. If there isn’t surplus cash in the bank, fair enough. At least we know. But the boss can’t keep bleating on about not having a squad strong enough to cope with four competitions each year, when we’re hearing there’s millions available to spend.

What do you think? Would you swap Champions League football for an FA Cup win? Share your views in the comments section.

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21 Comments

  1. Gideon Agbebi

    October 25, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Our Arsene Wenger is the most tactical deceptive manager I have ever seen.This man does not feel the pain we fans are feeling all over the world. If he has come out to tell us that we should forget about trophy every season then we would not bother.I will be very glad if Arsene Wenger can see this piece.

  2. Blessing Nwachukwu

    October 25, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    I believe someone like Evan Gazidis shd be placed on the transfer market for Arsenal to win a cup.As for Wenger the issue isn’t playing in the champions league every yr,but how many times has he won it?Reality is reality.The board shd face it and stop breaking ours hearts with utopian future.. Mr Blessing N.NSCDC Owerri Nigeria.

  3. johnkennedy

    October 25, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Surely Wenger you are a great manager and something in my heart was telling me that you would give such answers as before.Deep down your heart you know the failures but don’t want fans to dwell much on that. you rather would prefer to surprise us with a trophy through your beliefs and philosophy so that the only person coming on top would still be Wenger. TRUTH, FACT OR REALITY canot be substituted. Joy and satisfaction of having a prize, a trophy is what everyone wants to have at the end of any had sweat. We support a club that only needs to be sustainable but successful on the pitch as well. you are a manager and paid to balance the two. And on a more serious note, selling the best players the club has must come to a halt since developing and having a squad that plays well at a high level is not easy these days.

  4. Adah

    October 25, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    The man has spoken but it means little to me and my family that are being humiliated daily by Arsenal’s policy of champs league qualification. I won’t believe this talk until I possibly hear from the horses mouth. Arsene seems to forget too easily but let me remind him of how tough it was for him to even continue as manager aftet that league cup loss to Bermingham of all teams( I don’t mean to direspect). At what point did it get to him that we fans are damn satisfied with second round/quarter finals knockout in the hands of teams we are presumably on par with? My other question for Arsene is, inspite of our regular quailfications for the champs league, which of our player is world class? Instead the reverse is the case. My damn verdict for Arsene and the board is, a day, a week, a month and possibly a season will come whereby they will only meet an empty stadium/viewing centres as spectators until things are put aright. Though we will not decamp for we have no other than our sickening gun of today.

  5. suntex

    October 25, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    With this comment from wenger i dont see arsenal winning anything as long as wenger remains in charge. Wenger win the league cup and just see what it can do to the players.

  6. AJM

    October 25, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Being a gunner for 40 years, I have seen some good moments and many bad moments but nothing compares to the last 8 years. Lots of respect for Arsene Wenger but he has lost the plot. I am sorry to say but it is time he leaves Arsenal and another manager is given the chance to make Arsenal great again.

    • arsenal fan

      October 25, 2012 at 10:38 pm

      All the talk about wenger losing he plot, ok ,so who do you think would do a better job , within the sameconsstraint wenger is in , cause is seems that there s always the notion that wenger has load of money and he doesn’t like to spend .when we talk about transfer people tend to forget that you have the initial tranfer fee and the player’s wages .people need to realise that even with another manager, it’s gonna take time, and until the debt is paid , he is going to have his hand tied, so i’ll leave it at that

  7. prince

    October 25, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    Please can someone ask Mr Wenger: where are the medals that came with those 7 trophies? Where those trophies on display at Arsenals show room? Shameless Wenger. Never step your feet in Nigeria!!!

  8. Archimedes

    October 25, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    The backfiring social wage strucure and lack of innovation (scouting, coaching, tactics) AW has to shoulder but the talent depletion is due to Kroenke and you only need to look at his US teams (Rapids, Nuggetts, Avalanche, Rams) and their mediocracy to see where Arsenal is heading. At the AGM he said that he was committed to winning but his winning is Walmart way, value for money so farewell to glory. Lower your expectations fans, else you die of frustration.

  9. jjsam

    October 25, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    I wouldn’t know when qualification became winning either literarily or in reality. Man. U, Chelsea, even Man. City who just braced up at our back are all in the champions league year in, year out and all of them are boastful of trophies or trophy as it concerns each of them. The same goes for other year in and out contestants from other leagues. Perharps it didn’t occur to you, Arsene with due regard, that, your greatest feat as manager was THE INVISIBLE which came through the quality and matured players who made up the team. The players you assembled yourself. They went on again unbeaten until they lost to Barca at the final of EU. That because of continuity. Why now you don’t believe in continuity of a nurtured team is certainly absurd sir. Or those smiles and joyful emotions of winning trophies when you started at Highbury are no more anything worthwhile to you? Or you’re still enjoying your emotional frustration while losing as evident in bashing and smashing your bottles of water? And on the final note, monseur Wenger, what crowns you as a great manager is the numbers of trophies you won but not numbers of your qualifications. You will one day quit managing and have to count your blessings. What would you count then? Qualifications or Lifted Trophies? Pls, kindly forward to Arsene because, I realy care for his joy.

  10. Charles.

    October 25, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    We keep saying when the FFP comes into play, we shld plan on things we cant control is a wrong move. Truth UEFA will not clam down on teams like barca, r.marid etc. Cause they wil lose a lot of money if those teams are not the champions league cos of the FFP rule, even the league wont be same is those teams do not play. Arsenal shld plan on things they can control, players, wages and training. We have so much players on wages that dont offer us much in terms of value to resale them or even play. If arsenal wants to be run as a business, the brand is not our football but the satifaction given to the consumers (fans), player like diaby will be written off as bad debt. Our brand should be value for money and satifaction which means great football with trophies. Fans needs a braging right that is our satifaction. Arsenal needs one for his fans. My wife has stopped watching our matches, she said she is ashamed of watching us fail again and again. Even as bad as liverpool has being, they still got a cup.

  11. Sirmose

    October 25, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    This is just an excuse from a failure. AW made the whole world to believe that he was building a team that can win everything, which would take him 5years but its 7years gone without a rubber cup. This excuse is laughable. Mourinho should be preparing for AW reply by now. AW is not a man since he can not accept his obvious failure. Champions league qualification becomes a trophy only in AW’s dictionary but this is an insult to all gooner fans & we must reject it through an empty stadium during some matches. With AW in-charge, we cannot win even a plastic cup again. Gooner 4 life.

  12. jjsam

    October 25, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    There wasn’t a year Wenger was not equipped with money to buy up to two world class players but many atimes he chooses to rely on his young talented ones like he did when he failed to replace the vacuums he created in the team. Will he say there was no sufficient money to replace Nasri, and Song as at their departures but he refrained. So, let us blame board and at the same time, the manager whose responsibility is to phantom success. We can all see that apart from being trophiless, our tic-tac flowing game is gradually fading off and that football pattern made A GOONER.

  13. Akeem Abdulkareem Lanre

    October 25, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Wenger should be sacked with immediate effect. Dis man is not ambitious enough to win us any trophy again, he usually defend himself and his team when they are playing bad, so why will the players realised their mistakes and try to correct it before the next match.

  14. Steve

    October 26, 2012 at 12:02 am

    You can see it in the board members, the manager and the players. No honor at Arsenal.

    Supporters how can you continue to support this?????

  15. Akeem Abdulkareem Lanre

    October 26, 2012 at 12:14 am

    Why should he be saying that ucl spot is more important than winning any domestic trophy ! Does that means he doesn’t mind if we get knocked out of all this aforemention competition at the early stage. I think it is high time we give out ultimatum of trophy to dis foolish man, failing to do so, he should be boot out instantly. My younger brother has vow not to support arsenal anymore simply bcos of dis trophy drought. I don’t want us to be loosing our fans to others because of the trophiless seasons. I remain loyal but not with wenger.

  16. Rob

    October 26, 2012 at 3:46 am

    THE BOARD THINKS ARSENAL FAITHFULS ARE FOOLS AND IGNORANTS. GIVE EM SOME LAME POLITRICKS THEY SURE SHOULD COME DOWN AND BELEIVE ON US AGAIN AS USUAL .

  17. Rob

    October 26, 2012 at 3:51 am

    ULTIMATUM TROPHY OR AW AND BOATD OUT AND STAND OFF AGAINST KROENKER

  18. ken

    October 26, 2012 at 3:52 am

    mr wenger clearly has he support of the arsenal board when mr wenger first came to arsenal he made a massive impact the support of talented french players and they won trophys reached the champion league final after we got defeated by barca mr wenger changed tactics all our good players started to leave could they smell a rat they became disgruntled with him ,he then started bringing in younger players nothing wrong with that more excuses for wenger,if we lost an important match my point is this players want to win trophys so do supporters ,wenger wants to earn money and shares so do the board arsenal build players up and sell them on i cant see arsenal winning anything this season not with mr wengers thoughts if he was at newcastle he would have gone by now , there is always someone to replace us at some point

  19. Rob

    October 26, 2012 at 3:55 am

    ULTIMATUM TROPHIES OR BOOT OUT FOR A.W AND STAND OFF AGAINST KROENKER

  20. Allan

    October 26, 2012 at 6:17 am

    Wenger is talking like that because they are in business only making money and the fans has got nothing to gain other than the joy of winning. it is the board and shareholders that is gaining from his effort now.

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