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[PLAYER RATINGS] Arsenal 1-2 Man Utd: End Of The Road For Wenger?

Arsenal slumped to a third consecutive loss after Manchester United ran out 2-1 winners at the Emirates this afternoon. Here are player ratings from the game.

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Arsenal slumped to a third consecutive loss after Manchester United ran out 2-1 winners at the Emirates this afternoon. As the main writer for all things Arsenal here on Football-Talk, it’s not been easy writing match previews or player ratings posts in recent weeks.

However, this article is going to be relatively simple. This game was an entirely predictable affair, so simple in fact, that i could have written this post before the game had even kicked off. All the Arsenal fans i spoke to before the match were saying the same thing, and we all predicted how the game would pan out. Sadly we were correct.

Arsenal have no full backs, United had two direct wingers with pace in Nani & Valencia; there was only going to be one outcome. Fergie is astute enough to pick out opposition weaknesses and exploit them, and he did just that. No surprise that the opener came from a cross as Nani targeted Djourou at any given opportunity in the first half.

Arsenal were better in the second and started to create chances. Chamberlain was looking dangerous on the ball and set up Van Persie with a lovely pass for the equaliser.  Two minutes later and he was dragged off in place of the hapless Arshavin. Every man and his dog were left bemused by the decision, but the most worrying reaction was that of Van Persie. Take note Arsene, once you lose the confidence of your best player and captain, the ending is never a pretty one.

Arsene had now turned the crowd from supporting the players and pushing for an unlikely winner, to venting their anger at him. With one  ridiculous decision the manager had changed the complexion of the game in United’s favour. United duly netted the winner after Chamberlains replacement, Arshavin, let Valencia walk past him in to the box and set up Welbeck to fire home.

Man Utd deserved the win on the day and a chorus of boos rang out at the final whistle. Who can blame them? Wenger has never received such abuse and the number of Arsenal fans calling for his head grows by the day.

The manager has set himself up for this great fall. Three weeks ago he said it would be ‘foolish’ for Arsenal to drop points due to the lack of full-backs available at the club. Well three defeats and 9 points dropped later, who’s the foolish one now?

Here are my player ratings from the game.

Arsenal Player Ratings

Szczesny – 7 – Could do nothing about either goal and was again exposed by woeful defending. Took most crosses well and made a couple of decent stops.

Djourou – 4 – Roasted by Nani and Evra throughout the first half. Replaced at half time by an 18-year-old rookie. Should never play at right back again.

Mertesacker – 6 – Lack of pace was exposed by Welbeck in the second half and was lucky not to result in a goal, although to be fair to the big German he got back to clear off the line.

Koscielny – 8 – Again the best of the Arsenal back line. Great block lead to the equaliser and was solid throughout.

Vermaelen – 6.5 – Given a difficult time by Valencia and would perhaps feel he should have done better with the opener, as the United winger got in front of him to easily head home.

Song – 5 – Quiet game by his standards. Gave away silly free kicks and didn’t stamp his authority on the midfield.

Ramsey – 5 – Another disappointing display from Rambo. He’s looked out of sorts for weeks now. Passing and shooting was again below par.

Rosicky – 6 – Perhaps the best of the midfield trio but still didn’t do enough. Rosicky did look full of energy and you could at least see he was trying to make things happen though.

Walcott – 5 – Poor, again. Looks frustrated and just can’t seem to get in the game enough.

Chamberlain – 8.5 – Best Arsenal player on the pitch, lovely assist for Van Persie’s goal and was a threat throughout. Then hauled off by the boss, due to ‘fatigue’ apparently. Decisive point in the game, and arguably cost us.

Van Persie – 7 – Struggled to hold on to the ball when it was pumped up to him in the first half, although he was completely isolated by his midfield. Took his goal very well though. Did not look happy at full time. Who could blame him for leaving in the summer?


Yennaris – 7 – Far more comfortable up against Nani than Djourou was. Very mature performance from the young lad. Looks promising.

Arshavin – 3 – Pitiful, once again. Sloppy passing and pathetic excuse for defending lead to the winner. Should be sold in the next week, and it’s clear he WANTS to be sold. But will the ‘Professor’ listen?

Park – n/a – Only on for 5 minutes.

Man Utd Player Ratings

Apologies United fans, i don’t give detailed ratings for opposition players, just the ratings.

Lindegaard 7, Evra 8, Evans 7, Smalling 7.5, Jones 6 (Rafael 6), Valencia 8, Giggs 7, Carrick 7, Nani 7 (Scholes 6), Welbeck 8, Rooney 5.

Watch video highlights from Arsenal 1-2 Man Utd

What did you think of the game? Is it time Wenger left the club? What would your player ratings be? Please leave sensible responses in the comments section below… 



  1. Julie

    January 22, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    Thought Park did well in hte 5 mins he had. Cant expect much from him if he only gets on at 87 minutes!

    • iffyDaGoon

      January 23, 2012 at 7:09 am

      Lying just to cover up a manager’s bad decison is a horrible thing to resort to. Please stop lying to the fans. Alex was not cramping. Read alex chamberlains post match interview and it’s clear that this was not a forced change

      • John Gee

        January 23, 2012 at 3:39 pm

        ..and you know this how ???

  2. Rob c

    January 22, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Sadly unless he pulls his head out of his ass he must let someone else take over. He knew weeks ago at we would not have any fullbacks available so he should have done the spadework in December and signed at least one fullback on the 1st of January and probably another striker. He should also wake up to the Arshavin, Chamakh and Squillaci situations get them out of the club together with a few others.I wrote on a blog before the match in response to the claim that we would at least get a draw after having seen our line up, I failed to agree and thought a draw would have been a great result looking at our back four but was unlikely. Who could blame RVP if he decides to leave with stubborn manager like Arsene who is now becoming a liability to the club and undoing his previous remarkable work.

  3. jayfal

    January 22, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    i cant take it anymore! wenger are u serious? Arshavin does not want to be at the club…….u can not want to be at a club and u are not performing!!!! and wenger is such a hypocrite, how can u say u believe in youth wen u got a 18yr old dude tht cud easily be the next BIG thing on the pitch and take him off……sigh….God please help arsenal FC….please

  4. damien

    January 22, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    All the crticism towards wenger is misdirected. It should be directed towards Nasri- or at least the owners of man city. Ultimately the manager gets blamed for 3 straight defeats but i cant see us breaking down like we did against swansea, fulham, had nasri been playing for us.
    After all, Wenger had moulded the team around Nasri with the planned departure of fab- i cant say how much that player has single handedly ruined our season.

    One more point is wenger made the point a week ago that players have too much power- nasri, flamini, hleb, fabgas, clichy- these are the people who have ruined arsenal- not wenger- however he needs to buy one player at least b4 the end of jan, and we have the funds for that- so if we finish out of the top 4 wenger is partly to blame

    • Pete

      January 23, 2012 at 4:45 am

      Nasri left to play with winners, top players tend to want to do that and wenger can no longer provide that experience as he genuinely doesn’t know what he’s doing as evidenced in today’s fixture.

      Wenger cannot turn this around, but he can make things worse by staying on, just ask rvp.

      Since leaving, even hleb has won more trophies!

  5. TAR

    January 22, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    The only reason why Wenger is keeping Arshavin is to save costs. He doesn’t want to buy any players in this transfer window….Why??Arshavin,Ramsey,Walcott, Diaby,Squilaci,Denilson,Bendtner,Djouro, Chamakh…cant we buy at least 1 decent player after selling all these players?

  6. don

    January 22, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    wenger just has to leave! if the club has to progress.we are tired of lame excuses and him insulting peoples intelligence,OX wasen’t tired,he made the most senseless sub ive seen,and no,apology not accepted we’re tired of them,he is arrogant and the best thing that can happen to the club is him leaving

  7. John mcNeal.

    January 22, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Ramsy should leave! Loan, sell or shoot in the backyard.
    Destroying any flow midfield has every week.
    Over rated useless garbage !
    I’m being nice.

    He I pathetic. Every mistake is related to him.
    Makes me wish Eboue and denilson were back.

    I pray weekly he breaks a leg properly and Ross the fans of such pain weekly !

    Praying he gets injured. Will make a huge party!

    • Dom

      January 23, 2012 at 1:25 pm

      He’s here all week guys, John McNeal ladies and gentleman.

      what a tool

    • John Gee

      January 23, 2012 at 3:43 pm

      What a prat !!! anybody who wishes a player injury should be barred from the ground. Get off to WHL where you belong.

    • Rob

      January 23, 2012 at 4:11 pm

      Hahahahaha, the old faithful that knows f**k all about football. Agree with you all what a tool… we can all vent our anger and frustration but please do this in your head and think about what you are saying.

  8. goon4life

    January 22, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Save Arsenal FC, sign this petition!!!

    Spread the word, and get every Gooner you know to sign it!!!

  9. oputa bartholomew

    January 22, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Try means to please your fan now it is at your door step! Buy players before it will be too late wenger

  10. WoodyD

    January 22, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    Correction: Djourou should never play for Arsenal again. Seems like a nice fellow but should only be used as 4th string CB or Carling Cup.

  11. Tom h

    January 22, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    How disappointing, i remember few years ago when man united came up in the fixtures i knew we had more than a chance of beating them. Now days i don’t hold my breath. Taking off the most influencial player on the pitch and replacing him with arshavin was woeful.
    Why on earth do our club settle for second best players. Why the f**k don’t we by a midfielder or striker for example that has goal scoring credentials. Rosicky is an ‘ATTACKING’ midfielder yet he hasn’t scored in two years. Sell him and get someone who can contribute with goals and assist’s, this goes with every player not pulling there weight and haven’t been for several seasons, simple as.
    I love wenger and all he has done for our club, but he must go. The man has no desire, he’s not even worried about pushing for titles, all he wants is top 4. All good players leave when they’re established integral players. The stars leave and we replace with Weaker players. Surely when someone as influencial and important as fabregas leaves we should pay the 35-40mil to get the next star. There is so many problems with our great club, these will never be fixed untill the board is changed.


    January 22, 2012 at 10:44 pm


  13. Andrew

    January 22, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    End of the road for AW…..god I hope so!!!

  14. Junior

    January 22, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    I don’t know what Wenger was thinking with the sub and I see all these fans saying that he should go!! But right now who is there to replace him??? Because I know say that if Rafa Benitez took over I’d probably die?!?!
    Walcott needs to move from the wing he doesn’t do anything… Try play him with RVP or something, Chamberlain and Gervinho on the wings… Just hope Gibbs, Sagna and Wilshere are back soon!! And TV5 stays fit… Only way I see us even fighting for fourth.

    • Andrew

      January 22, 2012 at 11:04 pm

      Hi Junior, I would love to see Bilic. But don’t worry, we just need a regular inspiring good manager. AW doesn’t do the basics like make sure he has a squad nor inspire the useless players he has.

  15. Randy Lobbs

    January 22, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    There were so many things that went wrong with Arsenal today but the worst was the decision by Wenger to replace Oxlade Chamberlain. How do you replace the only bright spot on your team? And how do you do so with the mostly uninspiring and probably one of the most useless players on the squad this season. It took the hear out of the Gunners and I think finally lost for Wenger the respect of his players.

  16. Jay

    January 23, 2012 at 12:50 am

    Suprised you guys have turnt on wenger after all he has done

  17. List of managers to replace Wenger

    January 23, 2012 at 3:27 am

    Come on, who says there aren’t legendary managers around…

    Alan curbishley – should have taken over England after Charlton, not Capello

    Martin O’Neil – best manager to work with stingy owners with half a shoestring on a budget

    Claudio Ranieri – He was THE one that made Chelsea into a top team before Mourinho took the credit. But his ship has sailed… He looks happy at Inter.

  18. Chris

    January 23, 2012 at 3:28 am

    What is all the continuous Mertesacker bashing about? Mert had another solid game with great positioning and a lot successful clearing attempts, plus won countless headers. His true and fair rating should have been an 8. Surely he lacks speed but his superb positional sense and great passing ability makes easily up for that! The ONLY problem Arsenal needs to address is goal scoring. To have one forward account for 60%+ of goals scored is absolutely unacceptable and constitutes the core of all the current problems!

  19. don

    January 23, 2012 at 4:43 am

    junior and andrew,AW is no f**king GOD,he is easilly replaceble,just in the league oneal,moyes,hughes,lambert,shouldn’t list all of them,they are motivators,instill discipline,have no favouritism and can do wonders with a team like arsenal,most important they have ambition,they want to achieve.AW has lost all the above and is tactically inept,he behaves like a dog that eats its own vomit,his ambitions ended with invincibles n CL final against barca,now tell me what’s the worst that can happen? change is good as a rest,whatever change can bring,its better to find out than insisting on the same old shit!

    • John Gee

      January 23, 2012 at 3:50 pm

      Be careful what you wish for v!! The mames being suggested to replace AW have never won anything worth a mention. The problem is that we have all been very spoiled. Get behind the team and the manager. Arsenal will not be far adrift once everybody is fit.

      • The New Invincibles

        January 23, 2012 at 8:10 pm

        Surely even you can see this isnt the same Wenger who gave us Viera, Petit! Kanu, Edu, Pires etc..etc It’s been 6 years since we showed any kind of determination to succeed…I.e “win trophies”.
        If you disagree with me, then tell me why would anyone dismantle a team of experienced winners and replace them with a team of novices. Once we had the likes of Anelka, Cole, Clichy, Fabregas waiting to break into the team…. Now we are waiting for JENKINSON to get fit? And JU YOUNG??? At AFC?? What’s that all about?

  20. lol

    January 23, 2012 at 5:37 am

    rosicky 6>???this is not a good stats—dserves as much credit as ox—see the wonderful passes despite him playing in arteta’s role—clearly he was not put as an attacking midfielder ysterD bt did more than he was asked to do—more success over passes and possesion than anybody on the field-he showed he dserved a place more than ramsey as an attacking midfielder

  21. myres

    January 23, 2012 at 6:09 am

    this one goes out to tthe publisher, im an arsenal fan too but i must say your analysis and player ratings are so biased, a clear indication of luck of professional ethics and you are misleading your readers. Valencia scored one and created the other, how can you rate chamberlain more than him and why not give detailed ratings of the opposition? Poor ethics! Im disappointed

    • RVP10

      January 23, 2012 at 8:40 am

      Ethics? I’m an Arsenal fan who blogs about the team i support. I’m not a journalist and have no desire to give detailed ratings about the opposition, I’ll leave that to the United supporters.

      Of course there is bias, I wouldn’t be a proper fan if i didn’t subconsciously pay more attention to MY team. It’s natural.

  22. spencer

    January 23, 2012 at 8:21 am

    7 for RVP and 6 for Rosicky ? I agree, theres bias here. Van Persie missed the easiest of chances WHICH Rosicky set up, and Rosicky almost scored too. I’d give Rosicky a 7.5-8 definitely, ALSO considering the fact that his first start in many games.

    • RVP10

      January 23, 2012 at 8:42 am

      Rosicky bottled the chance he had when he needlessly passed to RVP instead of shooting, because he hasn’t scored in 2 years and didn’t trust himself to put it away, so passed the buck. Did you also miss RVP’s beautifully taken goal that got us back in the game?

      No bias in the Arsenal ratings, just giving my opinion. Van Perise deserved a higher rating in my opinion, you’re free to have your own take on things.

  23. Dom

    January 23, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Firstly we need to establish this no spending policy, if its the board then a change of manager will do diddly-squat.

    If it’s down to Wenger, bin him in the summer, Pep Guardiola, Mourinho, Hiddink, Deschamps, Ancelotti are the only men i’d have shortlisted. Proven winners.

  24. Rob

    January 23, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    In Wenger we trust… no more!
    I can happily agree with the substitution if he was to take off Ox with a player that is an international and captain of his country as long as it wasn’t Ars*shavin who has no desire to be at the club or play football. I was amazed as much as most I think to see him come on, potter about let through United with a half arsed tackle and wonder why the crowd boo him week in week out. Wenger insists he will not “splash the cash” to get Arsenal out of a slump that is prob going to see us not qualify for the champs league and scarily maybe not even the mickey mouse euro league, surely this is time for a board rethink as to who is driving this club forwards and not backwards. On a personal note, I have many Spurs friends… sorry… associates and I am getting sick of them using this phrase… “Your a top 4 team right?” with that sarcastic grin… I might be looking for a new job soon… hmmm maybe i can manage Arsenal 😛

  25. colinc

    January 23, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    almost every one of us seem to agree except that dope arsene wenger.and it won’t change with him in charge. he is too intent on attempting to be the savior of arsenal, which he isn’t because he single handedly has brought it to this. this team is full of rubbish almost every player is hopeless. no decent fullbacks and no likelyhood of getting any,diaby, djourou, walcott, ramsey, chamakh, sqillachi, song ,arshavin all should be slung out. nobody is enjoying this team at the moment are they.the window coming tom a close soon but still no interest in anybody.too tight and i think wenger is on the slippery slope that always gets its man eventually. colinc

  26. colinc

    January 23, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    what about george graham he built the only defence that went through a season unbeaten.his crime wasn’t as bad as wengers. colinc

  27. Mike Gunner

    January 24, 2012 at 6:47 am

    There is without a shadow of doubt Wenger has lost his way. He is fond of stats to back his stance.I am afarid its results that count.I had hoped the 2004 epl triumph would have galvanisd the gunners.Since then it has a downward spiral. In between the gunners could have won at least one epl title if he had taken the necessary action.
    Sadly he didn’t.There is no need to list numerous s things he should have done .
    When the Uefa ff play kicks in,the gunners could be playing in the Europa league or not all.That would give the gunners the chance to fight for the title. I believ all the big teams would buy top qauality players thereby nullifyin the gunners non participation in Europe.
    Wenger has a limited time to get the gunners charging up the table.If the defence concedes goals through blunders,the fm must pay the price and be fired.This is a results oriented business and frankly he should been axed three seasons ago.

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