Over-rated Nasri Can’t Replace ‘Leader’ Fabregas

By on July 3, 2011

Cesc Fabregas. The man, the machine, the first name on Wenger’s team sheet. The single player that one of the most famous clubs in Europe relies on. But what are they without him?

I am sure every Arsenal fan will agree with me when I say I am sick to the core with the transfer rumours surrounding our captain. Will he, won’t he? Is his heart somewhere else? That I’m not sure of, but I am sure of one thing. Our club is built around Cesc. Some say he is not a leader, including his team mate Denilson. In the last 3 seasons, Arsenal have won 61% of League games Cesc Fabregas has started and 43% when he hasn’t. Leader. Cesc is the single player in the Gunners squad that can make something out of nothing – make defence into attack, attack in to a goal. Towards the end of every season, Cesc is hit with an injury. Isn’t it funny that it is at that time that our season starts to crumble….? It’s quite worrying.

Let’s say he leaves. Barcelona snap him up in a cut-price deal and the Spaniard is finally happy. Who will fill his boots? The contract rebel Nasri? I do believe that Nasri’s strongest position is central midfield, but I just don’t think that he is the player that would step in and dictate the Arsenal play. To be honest, I think Samir is over-rated. He had a good run at the start of the season, scoring for fun. But he disappeared? He wasn’t as much of an intergral part of the Arsenal set up. Cesc, however, manages to pull some sort of trick out even when he is off form. Nasri just doesn’t quite live up to the expectations of our captain’s replacement. All of that, of course, is if he stays.

In a nutshell, we need Fabregas. He is our captain, and he chooses to influence people by means of the way he plays, not by talking. It would be a bitter blow to any of Arsene Wenger’s plans to see him move to Barcelona. It is evident that when he is injured, no-one can step up in the team. For the above reasons, I think that selling Cesc would take the club back, not forward.

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22 Comments

  1. John

    July 3, 2011 at 11:34 am

    IMO the only person to overrate Nasri is Nasri himself. Why do you think Wenger doen’t want to pay him more than £90k pw, allegedly.
    Agree he couldn’t step up to Cesc’s place in the team. He just hasn’t got the brains.

  2. abc

    July 3, 2011 at 11:44 am

    If everyone is fit Clichy and Nasri dont even make my first X1. I also think in Ramsey and Wilshire we have 2 players equal if not better than Nasri. Gibbs and Traore can offer just as much as Clichy. However people seem to forget we have a regular international left back already at the club Vermaelen. I have a scenario that could suit everyone. Sell Cesc to Barca for £35m then loan him back to us for a season. Sell the other 2, to City for £35m. Buy Mata, Cahill and Vertonghen

    • ben.n

      July 3, 2011 at 12:02 pm

      they will never loan him back that is completely a stupid idea in terms of barcas point of view.

    • Michael

      July 3, 2011 at 5:01 pm

      At what point would it be a clever idea for a team to spend £35 million pounds for no gain, to immediately loan a player out? It wouldn’t benefit Barcelona in the slightest.

  3. Gunners Fan

    July 3, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Look guys.Its all Arsenal’s fault.We could’nt manage to get trophies for like 6 seasons so our main players want to leave.But if we can utilise the money we get which Man Utd and Liverpool did when C.Ronaldo and Torres left them then we can make a better team.So hopefully we will win a trophy next round and show the world that we still got firepower left in us!

  4. Gunners Fan

    July 3, 2011 at 11:58 am

    @ abc

    i dont think Barca wud loan us back fabregas if we give sell him lol

  5. Jack

    July 3, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Torres is a strker and there are always good striker in the world
    a CAM or Playmaker is very rare now
    Fabregas type playmakers are even more rare
    he dictates our flow of game
    when he is on form we are one form
    What happened when Xabi Alonso liverpools heart of that team left
    they collapsed badly from 2nd in the 2008-2009 season where they reached the CL quarters they finished 7th in 2009-2010
    and now Suarez has filled the gap so they are back
    but how much did Suarez cost???
    Wenger would never spend soo much cash on a replacement

  6. Family Enclosure Man

    July 3, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    I totally agree that Fabregas is better than Nasri (and so is Wilshere, who in my view was AFC’s real player of the season). He would be far harder to replace – and when it comes down to it, I still don’t understand why so many people think we should sell him to Barca now: he still has 4 years of a highly lucrative contract to run. He is the club captain. He has all the virtues set out in this post. Barca and Cesc just don’t have us over a barrel in the way that Nasri and Clichy do. I firmly believe that Arsenal should only allow Fab to go this summer if someone is willing to pay £50m or so for him; it will be difficult to get that money in a year or two’s time because (a) his contract will have less time to run and (b) the new Financial Fair Play reg’s are likely to drive down transfer fees. £30m is what we can reasonably expect to get for him in 2 years time – so why sell him for that now?

    And latest reports suggest that Barca are ready to blow almost their entire transfer kitty on Sanchez, so for the second year running they have shown Fabregas how much they really rate him – which is certainly not as highly as we do.

    Every way I look at it, we should just tell Cesc ‘Sorry, son, unless we get a huge offer for you, you’ll be staying at this club for another couple of years’.

    Incidentally, even with players with one year to run on their contract like Clichy and Nasri, things are not completely straightforward. I would certainly flog either of them now if good money was offered (ie, £15m+, plus for Nasri, £10m+ for Clichy), but if the bids were substantially less, it’s not obvious that the club would be much worse off by just retaining their services for a final year and letting them go for free in 12 mths time. Remember that we would almost certainly make a substantial saving on salaries for 12 mths by paying for these players on their current deals rather than recruiting new and more expensive players on new contracts.

    That said, I’m certain there are better left-backs around than Clichy (and some of them might already be at the club). How many assists and goals has he managed in 8 yrs? How many defensive blunders?

    I rest my case.

  7. Arsenal Forever

    July 3, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Guys,

    I m a great Arsenal Fan. I like fabregas, Nasri and all our great gunners. Its a long time we have not won any silver ware this is big disappointment for all of us this doesnt mean that we stop supporting Arsenal. So for Nasri. He must not leave arsenal only because of trophy drought. he must be a Honest gunner if he leaving arsenal for winning a trophy with any other club, He is completely wrong. There are plenty of great Clubs and we have great competition with them. Any club don’t win every season. Even Manu don’t win every season.
    Apart from that, Any player has a right to go anywhere. We shouldnt loose our temper and sit to compare him with someone. Nasri is great player fabregas is a great player all gunners are great.

  8. Joe

    July 3, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Thank you! Finally, someone who appreciates Fabregas’ true quality. As good as Nasri has been this season he still only got 4 assists and is not nearly as creative as Cesc. I’m so sick of people deluding themselves, thinking that losing Cesc won’t be that big a deal.

    In fact people have almost started blaming him, saying his style is too slow and he is a poor captain. What Rubbish! The problem is he is surrounded by shocking players on massive wages who we can’t off load. They are the people we should be selling, (Denilson, Squillaci, Almunia, etc), not Fabregas!

  9. Aka Croc

    July 3, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Who wants to buy all those donkey’s , all good money is spent on stallions like the Fabragas ,and Nasri’s ,Van Persie’s and Walcott’s , All the other Donkey’s will be there next season Creamin it , Thank god we have a few sensible players still , Wiltshire,Ramsay, Vermallen,Sanga,,Kachielny,a few replacements and we will be fine , even better then this season , when a team dos;nt win for six years its time for change , it should be the Manager that goes first

  10. para

    July 3, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Asgood as Cesc is, it is plain that he is not really at AFC in his mind, and this has caused much destabilising of the team last season, and he even gifted his dream team a goal(very suspect).
    I for one don’t want him there next season IF he continues with his “dream”, which as we all can see hinges on Barca’s valuation of him.
    I also do not think that the team should be built around him, we need to rebuild a team with spirit, and more importantly with different options as we can see how having only one option is found out.
    This for me was the reason (along with the destabilising) why we crumbled.
    If the team does not go through major changes in coaching and defending, then it most likely will be the same next season regardless of who we bring in.

  11. Gavin

    July 3, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Completly agree, When I hear ex players like Perry Groves say Arsenal dont need Cesc but have to keep Nasri its a laughable statement. I really hope we let Nasri leave , replace with Mata and keep Cesc. I would be delighted with that sadly dont think Wenger will do it.

  12. Metalhead

    July 3, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    The funny part about Nasri accusing the club of failing to win trophies is that he is an integral part of that failure, which he so naively or foolishly fails to realize . I totally understand someone crying foul when he performs and the rest don’t. Someone like a Lampard who is not endeared so much in terms of talent but look at his stats. He consistently scores 20 goals each season. It’s the empty vessels that make the most noise. He wants the money and he’s using the trophies debate as an alibi. Nice try pretty boy ! You aren’t as good as you think you are!!!!

  13. arsenalwenger

    July 3, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    WEre screwed arsenal are screwed

  14. samatar

    July 3, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Fabregas is arsenal’s best player. He is not reliable they shud sell him and get sneijder or someone who can make very good long passes, since scoring isnt a problem forf arsenal.

  15. mark

    July 3, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    who the hell is denilson to say that fabregas is not the leader what has he done for the team just sell this idiot and get the best offer possible for fabregas and sell him to them

  16. Fionn

    July 3, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    Nasri is a great player and if he did stay, it would not be bad for us, but to be honest from what I have been hearing, if both Cesc and Nasri are unhappy then they can leave. We support the club, not the players, players come and go. The club lives on in our hearts, regardless of position or how well it is doing. Forever the Arsenal.

  17. Craig Player

    July 4, 2011 at 12:44 am

    @abc

    That would make us look like fools… buy our best player, and loan him back? Like they don’t even need him? How disrespectful that is to Arsenal. Besides, Barcelona wouldn’t do it. And also, i’d be expecting a little more than £35 million! Barca are unbelievable. And to be quite honest, however good Cahill is represented by the media, i don’t think he is the answer to all of our troubles. Vertonghen along side with his Belgium team mate Vermelaen i can see. Other than that I think we need the power house, dominant Congolian that is Christopher Samba! And on the left back front, as it seems inevitable Clichy will move on, I would like to see Baines!

  18. the grymm gooner

    July 4, 2011 at 1:49 am

    First point @ Family Enclosure Man…

    You should be writing the Arsenal articles mate. Maybe even apply for a scouting job over at the emirates because you’ve put clarity over speculation and hit the nail on its effing head.

    Fabregas has 4 years to run on his contract which he only signed last year… and to use a poor but accurate analagy as an example he should be treated the same way your mobile phone company would treat you… Cancel your contract pay the remaining months in FULL.

    I’d say that is at least £6million (bonuses included of course) on TOP of his transfer value. £40million plus a player… (id take mascherano for his work rate alone) or £50million straight sale…

    And in terms of the likes of Nasri, though I dont rate him as low as some people he is easily replaceable, players like Ramsey in our squad could step in, cattermole and parker though not as skillful would make up for it with their steel and determination.

    The thing is, its easy to say that people understand why our top players want to leave and lets face it if Barcelona offered me £35 a week i’d be on the next flight out but lets not forget that though some blame should be placed with the manager it should only be a small amount…

    He placed his faith and belief in the players that are currently voicing their discontent… the likes of diaby, bendtner, denilson should have been sold 3 years ago in my opinion and to say that they wish to leave now is a kick in the teeth considering the manager gave them the chance to play at ARSENAL no less.

    In short, the blame for lack of trophies should fall square at the feet of the people wearing the football boots.

    Wenger never told our players to lose to birmingham! Wenger doesnt instrust the players NOT to shoot. Bendtner was the guy who played at the nou camp. How many times do you see wenger giving the players his death stare, kicking water bottles and throwing his arms in frustration? Thats because he has expectations and they’re not being met. And like any good captain he will go down with his ship but not before he saves the bastards that caused the hole in the first place

  19. jason

    July 4, 2011 at 2:36 am

    Im glad theres somebody being realistic Fabgregas has created more assits these 4 years than any player has he holds the record.

    So Nasri truthly would never replace him just look at Nasri’s stats not even that impressive.

    What was it in 30 games hes scored 10 goals and 1 assist.

    Last time i checked Cesc this year scored 3 goals and created 14 goals so Cesc even tho hes had a bad season still created more goals over all and did better than Nasri whos had his best season.

    People forget last season in 27 games in the league he scored 15 goals and created 15 goals.

    So how in any way shape or form can Nasri replace Cesc??

  20. arsenal truth

    July 4, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Nasri is very good but he is over rated quite obviously and I can say that because I have seen players have 1 good season in the past and fade away. Nasri is in no way a consistently proven player over a number of seasons and his stats confirm this.
    Fabregas is a great player but he should go because he is clearly not happy to stay.
    The real problem is what Wenger is doing. He brought a defender from the second division in the french league to become our FIRST CHOICE CB, he keeps faith in players that are clearly poor (namely Bentnar and almunia), he refuses to buy players that will see us give a stronger challenge season by season and he seems to have very average and narrow minded scouts.
    Why would you not buy a sriker capable of standing next to V.persie? Why not buy a good enough CB so we don’t piss our pants everytime we hear the name Drogba? Why on earth is Bentnar at a club like Arsenal? and why offer about 8 million for players clearly worth about 15 million. It is clear we have a very confused manager who has a simple job. . . finish 4th

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