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Arsenal Stronger When Fabregas Leaves?


By Fab4.

All Arsenal fans are dreading the day that captain Cesc Fabregas leaves the Emirates. We all know he will return back to Spain at some stage in his career, it’s just a case of when not if. Barcelona is the obvious destination for Fabregas and the Catalans have once again been linked with a big money move this summer, with Yaya Toure being touted as a possible sweetener in any deal.

Today’s latest transfer rumour is that Arsene Wenger will look to sign Everton’s Mikel Arteta should Fabregas leave this summer. Now there are not many Arsenal fans who appreciate Fabregas more than me, but if he does leave we could a lot worse than getting Arteta as a replacement. The Spaniard is highly under-rated in my opinion and it’s amazing how he’s continually over-looked by his country, or perhaps it’s just an example of how strong Spain are that they can’t find a place for him in their squad. Arteta has premiership experience, great vision, scorers goals and is good on set-pieces. He’s 28-years old which may be a problem for some and he’s just over-coming a serious knee injury so there could be doubts about his long-term fitness and the last thing Arsenal need is another injury prone player. But if he passed strict medical checks and the deal was right, Arteta would be a great replacement for Fabregas should he leave.

It’s no secret that Arsenal could also do with a big strong defensive midfielder, and Yaya Toure has been a long term target for Wenger so again, if Fabregas had to leave, it would be good to get Toure in as part of any deal. If we could get £35m plus Toure from Barca for Fabregas, then use £12m-£14m to buy Arteta we would be left with over £20m in change to strengthen the squad further.

Losing your best player is never seen as making progress, but sometimes sacrificing a player is in the best interest of the squad. Fabregas’s sale should make Arsenal over £50m in today’s market. With that kind of money we could easily get four players that would make us stronger than we are now with Cesc.

Out: Fabregas (£55m)

In: Toure (£15), Arteta (£13m), Hart (£10m), Hangeland (11m)

Arsenal’s squad would certainly be stronger with those changes. This isn’t even taking in to account the £30m transfer budget Wenger apparently already has this summer, so we could even look at bringing in a marque player as well. I’m not for one minute saying this is what Arsene should be doing, i want Fabregas to stay at Arsenal for as long as possible, but if he does leave then getting Toure and Arteta in as well as having cash left over would be a decent deal for Arsenal.

*** UPDATE*** Since publishing this article i have recieved a few comments questioning my thinking. So just to clarify a few points:

  • I want Fabregas to stay at Arsenal for as long as possible, he is our best player and the heartbeat of the team.
  • However, Fabregas WILL leave Arsenal at some stage in his career whether Arsenal fans like it or not.
  • When he does we should use the funds from the sale to strengthen the SQUAD.
  • We have a valuable asset in Cesc, and when he leaves if we use the funds correctly i feel our SQUAD will be stronger than it is now.
  • This is a hypothetical situation, i am suggesting players we could buy if Fabregas left this summer.
  • Silvestre, Senderos, possibly Gallas and Campbell will be off the wage bill, covering the wages of the new players.

What do Arsenal fans think Wenger should do ‘if’ Fabregas left this summer? Please leave your comments below…



  1. colin gooner

    May 12, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    sel sell sell sell he’s injury prone and over rated get kevin nolan in!!

    • xanzi

      May 12, 2010 at 2:14 pm

      f u. over rated

    • Caknucklehead

      May 12, 2010 at 2:22 pm

      are you retarded? over-rated?
      He has time and again carried the team on his shoulders. Injury prone? Yet he still leads the team in goals AND assists? Get off the pot ya blind-eyed no-good!

    • anandamide

      May 12, 2010 at 3:26 pm

      I agree with almost everyone that we need to add, but I have to laugh at all these people who think it’s easy to buy players that would improve us. I constantly hear suggestions about buying middle-talents (usually English) like Kevin Nolan, Matthew Upson, Shawn Wright-Phillips etc. Let’s get something clear here: we easily beat all but 4-5 teams in the world at the moment. To climb a level we need players who would make it into those sides. Would Kevin Nolan get a shout at Chelsea? Upson for Barcelona? Wright-Phillips can’t even hold down a place at Man City.

  2. Roy

    May 12, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Give Wilshere and Ramsey 2 more years then sell. Won’t need to replace then as it’ll be an internal promotion.

  3. Goonerkalix

    May 12, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    I think we should buy not sell… Maybe not this guy but still.

  4. Best Gunner

    May 12, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    The point is, why do we have to sell Fabregas, when we already have enough money to get the players you mentioned.

    • Fab4

      May 12, 2010 at 1:50 pm

      We don’t have to sell Fabregas. But we all know that one day he will tell Wenger he wants to leave, and Arsene wont stand in his way. When that day comes, whether it’s today or in 5 years, we need to invest the money properly and we could end up a stronger team without him.

  5. The Fan

    May 12, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    You do realize costs don’t work like that, right?
    A safe rule of thumb. Double the transfer fee to see how much it really costs. Because all the taxes , insurances and wages add up to a lot more than you think.
    So we could only get 2 of those players realistically.
    Also i recall only 70% of money made from selling a player at arsenal can be used to buy new players.

  6. brdgunner

    May 12, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    I dont think Yaya Toure will help Arsenal. He is not alot better than Song. We need a third member of the three man midfield rather than to replace the two good ones we have.

    Arsenal have a hole in midfield, Cesc is excellent at creating Song is a strong and calming influence we need a player that complimetns the two we have.

    If we sell Cesc and bring in Toure we would then need two midfileders rather than one.

    Arteta cant replace Cesc.

  7. cinjo

    May 12, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    we fans have to pray Fab to stay.
    Because If he leaves we are not going to get any replacement.
    AW is not going to sign any good player for this. And he will wait for Ramsey. That’s all.
    And this rumors are all bull shit.

  8. Joni

    May 12, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    What about Arshavin? Doesn’t he want to go the Barcelona aswell? I think that if Fabregas wants to go, we should let him go. The only thing that does my head in is knowing that all the tranfers (in) you mentioned would be amazing but its almost impossible that Wenger will see even two of these targets through! let alone of them. He will probably buy some players that nobody has heard of! Fingers crossed he buys someone atleast.

  9. Davy j

    May 12, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Jesus…. This blogger has spent way to much time playing LMA manager! Do you really think a transfer is that simple. Sell him and buy them!! What a clown… What about the 4 or 5 players wenger would have to pay .. Let me guess , if he gets rid of Agnas in the canteen and bob the security man and steve the carpark attendant along with some cuts in the arsenalworld shop it would balance our..
    How do guys like , who spout complete crap get there own blog…..

    • Fab4

      May 12, 2010 at 2:50 pm

      Davy j – First of all, it’s not my ‘blog’, i submit articles to the website. Feel free to do the same if you think you could do better.

      Secondly, all Arsenal fans are expecting Wenger to sign at least three players to make us competitive next season. My article says 1 out 4 in = +3. None of them, perhaps with the exception of Toure, will be on mega wages. It looks like Gallas will go along with Silvestre, senderos and possibly campbell, so the wage bill will be cut anyway. PLUS the fact the purchases are all hypothetical and only apply if Fabregas, our highest earner, leaves the club.

      So i’m not really sure what your point is? Thanks for the reply though.

  10. rafi

    May 12, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    If Mickel Arteta is under rated playing for everton, what can he bring to arsenal? The fact that he fails to make them a feared team shows he is exactly what he is – plain average! Consider this. Shawn Wright phillips did so called wonders at mancity and chelsea bought him. he spemd 4 years warming the bench, with his father whingeing every day. scott parker and damien duff did exactly the same and the results were similar.if arteta is as good as you say why does spain ignore him or the top spanish teams? the fact is that just like joleon lescott, phillips, parker etc, these are good average players suitable for their current teams but who will find title challenging teams like arsenal a bridge too far(ask lescot’s mancity). arteta is no replacement for cesc and we dont want him at the emirates. arsenal say they now make enough money, they now need to barnish the image of a selling club starting with making sure barca sweat blood for cesc, charge them 100pnd at leats if they persist. after all , if liverpool can keep torres, why cant we cesc?

  11. Nyas

    May 12, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    we have sold enough players over the last few seasons and it has to stop now. We cant keep on being a feeder club for the liek sof Barcelona etc etc. We have to build a team to win something and we can only do that by keeping our best players and not selling them. The team struggled without Fabregas at the end of the season. We need him to stay with , more than any amount o fmoney or wheeling and dealing we can do. Last year we made lots of money on Ade & Toure when we sold them to Citeh, but what happenned to the money. For all we know , we might get 100million pounds on Ces, but Wenger will play Wishire or some Kid and we go thru the same kind of season again.

    • Fab4

      May 12, 2010 at 3:01 pm

      I agree, but realsitically Fabregas WILL leave Arsenal at some stage. Whether you, me or anybody else likes it or not.

      What i’m saying is when he does go, get a good price and use the money to strengthen the squad. We have a valuable asset in Cesc and with the money from his sale we could create a very srtong unit at Arsenal that isn’t overly reliant on one player.

  12. Tim

    May 12, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Although I did read your whole piece, the headline really says it all.

    Cesc is the heart and soul of this team and anyone who believes the team could be stronger without him should be committed to an institution.

  13. colin gooner

    May 12, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    for that matter vermaleen can go as well…injury prone like rvp! apparently titus bramble isn’t happy we shoulddef look at him

  14. sbd

    May 12, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    This is a completely unneccessary argument. Cesc isn’t going to go this year. If and when he goes worry about it then. The economics of the situation will be different. Let the club do its job and recruit who they think they need, when they think they need them. If you don’t like it don’t go to the games. The club knows the fan’s feelings. If they don’t at least in part meet expectations, gates will fall, reducing income. Ultimately they know they have to invest in the team.

  15. Binoy

    May 12, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    I don’t think selling cese will be a smart move……
    I think we don’t need yaya toure….
    I am sure that arteta can replace cese…cese is top class but arteta is 2nd class…
    All the stupid business….. Selling cese will be another set back for arsenal… That arsenal can’t recover….if arsenal sell cese it will take 2 more year to properly replace that means ti will be another several year without any trophy…..

  16. Griff

    May 12, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    I, personally don’t think it would be a good idea to get rid of either, Agnas in the canteen or Bob the security man as it could kill their development.

  17. Louis

    May 12, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    I think Arsenal will get a better deal if Madrid come calling and in exchange we ask for Kaka and Diara

  18. Bidex

    May 12, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    He is a high rated player,i cn say we shudnt sell him 4 nw.giv him mre season.peeeeace out.

  19. Arsenal

    May 12, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    We need a new GK badly and a new CB

    Otherwise, we can revert to our 4-4-2 and have all the positions nicely filled

    Nasri – Fabregas – Song – Arshavin
    RVP – Chamakh

    Actually, we could even do a diamond formation

  20. rafi

    May 12, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    If AW thought like you then Cesc who have long left for barca, given the position the team is over the past 5 yrs.Just like he would have let viera, thierry etc go in 2002.Whereas you may say cesc’s roots makes it inevitable in football it is never that straight forward. otherwise drogba should be forever under mourinho, torres would be in the top two spain teams, whilst riberry would be lighting the stadium at the bernabau.much as he started his youth football at barca, he also started his profesional game at the emirates, has his family with him and learnt english very early.maybe he just loves it too in his adopted home and could take some uprooting?given his populrity at arsenal, who knows what the club’s hireachy could promise him as enticement? suppose arsenal suddenly started wiining trophies? i believe just like therry played for 9 years and vieira lasted the same against the murmurings of the press way cesc will continue with the club. the last thing you should be doing as a supporter is to do spanish tabloid their donkey work as a ‘news’ source to unsettle our captain.

    • Fab4

      May 12, 2010 at 6:29 pm

      Wenger always says he wont stand in the way if a player wants to leave. Simple. He never has. Cesc has said at some point in his career he will return HOME to spain. Simple, deal with it.

      I, just like you or anyone else, doesn’t know when Fabregas WILL leave Arsenal. This article is hypothetical and is how i feel we could invest in the squad with the money from Fabregas’ sale IF he left this year. Im not saying he will, and i hope he doesn’t. In no way am i unsettling our captain, i very much doubt he will read my article!

  21. Steve

    May 12, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    Actually Fabregas issue once again shows AW failure to build a team whose foundation isn’t England Natives. After all, none will prevent Fabregas to join his mother land. But look at Gerard, Lampard, Rooney, Rio F. Terry, they have been tempted but opted to stay at their respective clubs. So, if Fabregas quits, I don’t mind. C7 joined Real M but Red Devils are still there doing well. So let him go. He isn’t the first to go nor the last. Even if everybody in the current squad leaves, Arsenal will remain.

  22. Brownman

    May 13, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Whateva said and done, Fabregas shouldnt leave Arsenal. He has already come so far in beginning a legend for the club. Whats another 2 or 3 years before leaving. Have u seen what happened to Reyes, Viera, Henry, Wiltord, Overmars and Petit when they left ? He has always insist that he wants to leave something with Arsenal and i believe he is a man of his words. Over rated ? Being injured and carrying the whole team mentality and physically is not a small matter .. and at his age .. His achievement so far with Gunners will never be taken lightly. He is the backbone of the club along with all the others in their own ways. They only disappoinment is Almunia and Fabianski. We would have been made a three horse race for the title this year. We had the easist path by far this year to claim the trophy and both of em let us down. Almunia mistake in the Birmingham match and need i say more what Fabianski has done. Everyone makes mistakes i guess …. Arteta, Toure and Hangeland along with Chamakh will be a great addition to the team. But i think Wenger will suprise us. He is always unpredictable. Chamakh should have joined us during the winter break but Wenger took a gamble. Stay tuned for more suprises for Wenger. IN ARSENE WE TRUST.

  23. Brownman

    May 13, 2010 at 9:08 am

    My hope is

    GK : Hart & Buffon
    DF : Hangeland, Shawcross
    MD : Toure, Shaun Wright, Eden Hazard
    ST : Chamakh, David Villa

  24. Cee Cee

    May 13, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Yes I totally agreee – IN ARSENE WE TRUST!

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